Why is AMD the Budget Option for Gamers?

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  1. Fichte NullDrei

    Fichte NullDreiIl y a 58 minutes

    How did u not tested how much power they used?

  2. The Curious Noob

    The Curious NoobIl y a heure

    Linus sounds so calm in this video.

  3. Samo Gledam

    Samo GledamIl y a heure

    AyyMD

  4. Shawn Martel

    Shawn MartelIl y a 2 heures

    As much as they both seem to be great options for different reasons. I can't get down with any company making people pay a premium on brand name alone.

  5. vitthal chepte

    vitthal chepteIl y a 2 heures

    Watch 3$ watch from amazon unboxing frreporter.com/v/vid%C3%A9o-ff5ZTws47Vw.html

  6. Fred T. McCoy Jr.

    Fred T. McCoy Jr.Il y a 3 heures

    what if you did a new build versus a top of the line build from last year/generation? like new stuff versus best stuff from 2 years ago?

  7. Tim Ronchi

    Tim RonchiIl y a 3 heures

    Do the same thing at $1200

  8. maevian

    maevianIl y a 3 heures

    Intel prices are pretty reasonable in the US, The difference in price between intel and AMD is way bigger in europe

  9. akaGiant

    akaGiantIl y a 4 heures

    I feel attacked

  10. duddits 5k

    duddits 5kIl y a 5 heures

    power consumption?!!?

  11. Marc Gaits

    Marc GaitsIl y a 6 heures

    I have been using Intel for many years, but after numerous reviews and reports. I will never go back to Intel. AMD all the way, thank you Linus.

  12. Daniel Bondas

    Daniel BondasIl y a 6 heures

    I was looking a lot for a computer setup for working that it's around $2600 that works well as a Hackintosh but i didn't found a good one, can you guys make one?

  13. NightMare Dark Angel

    NightMare Dark AngelIl y a 7 heures

    I see the title was changed 🤔

  14. foreign's gaming tech

    foreign's gaming techIl y a 8 heures

    Remember when CPUs were as boring as GPUs right now, before Ryzen came out? Yeah, me too. Ryzen is great and I would have done the builds differently, but this video concept is really cool.

  15. EweToobUsername

    EweToobUsernameIl y a 9 heures

    Moral of the story - if you don't really give a damn about overclocking, get an Intel non-K chip and a B series board.

  16. Tim Clark

    Tim ClarkIl y a 11 heures

    I'm disabled and bought my i7-3770S for around $80 used for the first PC I ever built and it's still going strong, 1 month away from 3 years later. Of course I upgraded the GPU I started off with from a GTX 760 SC 2 GB VRAM to a GTX SSC(Super Super Clocked?) 970 4 GB VRAM but again, I bought the GPUs used. You can save a pretty penny going used and there is little to no difference

  17. Ford Entertainment Group FEG

    Ford Entertainment Group FEGIl y a 11 heures

    Linus...a 8400 is not more powerful than a 8350k in gaming.

  18. Junker Zn

    Junker ZnIl y a 11 heures

    Me either. Those numbers came out a lot closer to each other than I thought they would at the start. I suspect, though, that Intel really pulls in its margins at the higher-end where they can ignore power consumption and they have an absolute performance advantage by leaning on superior clockability. So we have the 9900K @ $530 against the 2700X @ $290, which is a whopping $240 difference sans cooler. If we just assume that we'll buy an AIO for both, the difference is the same. The Intel chip has a significant performance advantage, but you wind up paying through the nose for the extra cpu cycles. The question is... is that extra performance worth it? I would argue for most people the answer is no. For ultra-high-end gamers, sure. But for the other 99% of computer buyers (even the other 95% of gamers)... no. Not worth it. On the Intel side the costs keep piling up in order to squeeze out the last bit of performance from that CPU, whereas on the AMD side you can just stick with the stock cooler and the somewhat lower performance, but widen the price difference by another $40 (at least, keeping the AIO for the Intel), for a difference of $280 in total. That $280 buys a lot of quality-of-life for someone on a budget. absolute performance isn't everything. I think the fact that ram and SSD prices have fallen is putting a larger bulls-eye on Intel's pricing. It doesn't seem to phase Intel, but I'll bet the Zen 2 stuff coming out later this year will. Particularly now with ram prices having halved vs last year, and SSD prices also having dropped significantly, what can $280 buy? $100 - An extra 16GB of ram (on top of what you already have) $85 - A 2TB Crucial SSD (SATA) (which is $135, but also subtract $50 for the 1TB HDD being removed) $95 - With $95 remaining... that is definitely enough to also upgrade the GPU in the system, or perhaps a better monitor. Same calculation... incremental price difference by buying a better component. Now, the AMD system on air will be, what, around 20% slower than the Intel system on an AIO? Even so, these are still two high-end systems. A 2700X is no slouch, and the QOL improvements buys a lot of smiles. A better GPU will close the gap. More ram... if you have a use for it, will improve quality of life (else spend the money on something else). Having a SSD instead of a HDD will *definitely* improve quality of life. A person on an unlimited budget won't care. Most people don't have infinite amounts of cash to drop on their rigs, though. -Matt

  19. Zachary Schumann

    Zachary SchumannIl y a 12 heures

    I'm rocking a Ryzen 3 2200g and 1050ti. Totally fine.

  20. Vipor26

    Vipor26Il y a 12 heures

    I really really like Anthony. He and Linus have good on screen dynamics.

  21. Ethan Martin

    Ethan MartinIl y a 13 heures

    Corsair vs. EVGA power supplies next haha.

  22. PjStarTV

    PjStarTVIl y a 13 heures

    If you're going with a non-overclock chip, the i5-9400F is $15 cheaper than the i5-8400. It's only $15 but there's really no reason to NOT go with the 9400F if you're going to use a dedicated GPU.

  23. Anowara Begum

    Anowara BegumIl y a 13 heures

    What a set!

  24. sergio scanzani

    sergio scanzaniIl y a 13 heures

    i would like AMD PURE vs INTEL PURE... (include GPU AMD )

  25. bubbyj

    bubbyjIl y a 13 heures

    Real budget build would have been an RX590 and save 150 on the AMD build. Benchmarks are not a great way to measure real world performance. For 1080p gaming, use the 590 and you could have a case and nice mouse or keyboard for the same price you guys worked with.

  26. Zsavage1

    Zsavage1Il y a 13 heures

    LMAO the RX580 or 590 will kick the shit out of the 1060... hahah and it's CHEAPER!! only around 200.00 for the RX580 and it's 8gb ... both you guys suck and budget built..

  27. Wheel Trouble

    Wheel TroubleIl y a 13 heures

    Something AMD people have known for years. Gaming benchmarks will always favor intel, as game devs focus on troubleshooting for those systems. AMD is bang for buck.

  28. Happy Potato

    Happy PotatoIl y a 14 heures

    "Who could dislike the video?" 1.6k people... so far....

  29. daniel najera

    daniel najeraIl y a 14 heures

    Could u guys do a 3d rendering test rig

  30. imfastasfrickboi

    imfastasfrickboiIl y a 14 heures

    here before they changed the title to why is amd the budget option and when it was is amd for poor people

  31. Istarion

    IstarionIl y a 14 heures

    >Gigabyte b450 >good vrm oh dear...

  32. Honk von Brämstedt

    Honk von BrämstedtIl y a 15 heures

    I'd like to see the most affordable non-blocking three screen office computer, ideally fanless 😎

  33. cpear760

    cpear760Il y a 15 heures

    In a video about budget gaming, sitting in office chairs that easily cost over $400.

  34. Taluvian

    TaluvianIl y a 15 heures

    I feel not using dual channel hurt intel build a bit.

  35. St8kout

    St8koutIl y a 16 heures

    Let me say up front this is not about fat-shaming, but seriously, Anthony, buddy, you really need to take action with your weight before it's too late. When you're young you think you're invincible, going to live forever. But the reality is you are heading for some major health issues in the coming years. We really don't want to see a Linus Tech Tip episode where Linus shows how to build an emergency defibrillator from a computer power supply, in memorial to the passing of his friend that he might have saved if he had one.

  36. gary maya

    gary mayaIl y a 16 heures

    so if you spend those $40 bucks on shipping, the intel machine is faster, because it's there the next day???

  37. Ray Majka

    Ray MajkaIl y a 16 heures

    You're right; that's absolutely correct.

  38. Kenneth Hicks

    Kenneth HicksIl y a 16 heures

    Good real world stuff. Son;t forget about time...numbers change.

  39. Maddy Carbuncle

    Maddy CarbuncleIl y a 17 heures

    Content suggestion - performance scaling/throttling of GPUs from low/mid to high-end CPUs. I was shocked by how important this is when researching a low-end build and finding out a GTX 1030 was the most that would be used by my otherwise old machine. (You sort-of covered this in $69 gaming rig, but also expand this to an actual range of CPUs from low-mid to high, versus a small number of GPU targets such as 1050ti, 2060, 2080 - at what CPU level does each card actually show a benefit?)

  40. Maddy Carbuncle

    Maddy CarbuncleIl y a 17 heures

    I have to say. Your content rocks but I have to agree with others about the graphs not making sense. In the Intel vs AMD graphs e.x. my attention was focused on the blue vs yellow bars, but they were only about the minimum percentile, whereas contrast SHOULD have been used to highlight the difference between AMD and Intel instead. I'm not being sarcastic- serious suggestion- maybe there is a visualisation course on Skillshare or something that can help. The intent is great, the data collection is great, but the visual presentation of graphs is where it falls down. Love your work. Hopefully this is a helpful suggestion.

  41. John McCrery

    John McCreryIl y a 17 heures

    i understand your what your doing but while you were picking your parts you went with stock air coolers and not liquid cooled so your test might be off

  42. Masta6801

    Masta6801Il y a 17 heures

    Wait for Ryzen 3000 Intel we be in a rough spot. If it true 16 core 32 threads for round $550 on 7nm. Intel is struggling with 10nm. If that was an Intel CPU you can bet it would be over 1k.

  43. Stefan50326

    Stefan50326Il y a 18 heures

    That was fun. Do it again

  44. Mercurio

    MercurioIl y a 18 heures

    You Could have Gone with a Vega 56 in the AMD build and just stomped Intel.

  45. Mercurio

    MercurioIl y a 18 heures

    big nerd vs skinny nerd.

  46. Akalion

    AkalionIl y a 18 heures

    Why would you do a build without taxes? Like everyone's gonna pay the taxes so what's the point.

  47. None of your business

    None of your businessIl y a 9 heures

    Different tax rates in the states I guess. Dunno how it's in Canada though.

  48. Ronald Kapaun

    Ronald KapaunIl y a 19 heures

    uhm. This core count limited view is kind of a non-starter. Most modern games do no USE multi-core systems 'properly'. Let me clarify... many DO use multi-core tech, however, once you get a system over 4 cores... the benefit get's a bit sketchy. This is part of the reason that graphics off-loading makes a significant difference. This is just my opinion based on a number of 'mid-range' PCs I have built. Spread Sheets are a good start but, real world actual performance wins every time.

  49. PureNupe1

    PureNupe1Il y a 19 heures

    I'd much rather see this type of content done for productivity/ creative software such as Adobe photoshop , lightroom, Autodesk, solidworks, or proE...what system build provides fastest rendering and responsiveness

  50. DeathsHands

    DeathsHandsIl y a 19 heures

    Definitely more videos like this at different price points. intel will probably lose at lower price points but it would be cool to see the differences.

  51. Psyborg

    PsyborgIl y a 19 heures

    I believe the perspective on 0:34 to 0:40 is a bit stretched. Poor Anthony...

  52. Riptide the dragoon

    Riptide the dragoonIl y a 19 heures

    Is it true that 4 ghz for amd is different than 4 ghz from Intel.

  53. Riptide the dragoon

    Riptide the dragoonIl y a 19 heures

    I dont think so, but ive heard the rumor.

  54. Boo Hoo

    Boo HooIl y a 20 heures

    5:28 - Did I just here... "zee" series board? C'mon Linus, you're Canadian. Say a "zed" series board... :P

  55. Bladewing

    BladewingIl y a 20 heures

    Linus could have used his remaining budget to slot in a basic boot+a game or two SSD to get a competitive edge. Then the systems would have had their own ups and downs in different areas of performance. Also, hold up, the PCPartPicker builds used the stock coolers but you used AIO's to cool during testing? Or was that just stock footage at 6:33?

  56. Francois Weber

    Francois WeberIl y a 20 heures

    All that it means is ... well whenZen 2 comes along its kinda game over intel. For a while at least.

  57. Rohan Jha

    Rohan JhaIl y a 20 heures

    Excellent analysis! Definitely would love to see more of such comparisons! What's the difference like in the higher tiers?

  58. Renis

    RenisIl y a 21 heure

    Intel costs alot more in my country

  59. Atharva Muley

    Atharva MuleyIl y a 21 heure

    YES PLZ, AT A PRICE 1500$

  60. GaminGRedbladE

    GaminGRedbladEIl y a 21 heure

    AMD is like a rebel

  61. Midnight

    MidnightIl y a 22 heures

    To me all this proved was that amd is now competing with intel/nvidia at the same level. Weather it was because intel had to finally get off the high horse and offer better pricing or amd just caught up to intel/nvidia in performance. This is a good thing and I don't want intel to be ruling the market again like it used too. Competition is a great thing to have for the consumers as well as the companies.

  62. Harz.exe

    Harz.exeIl y a 22 heures

    Guys! I think I have super powers! I can hear their thoughts :)))

  63. ThatGTAThing

    ThatGTAThingIl y a 23 heures

    When controversial title is your middle name.

  64. Godis Mytower

    Godis MytowerIl y a 23 heures

    AMD CPU RYZEN 5 2600 WITH WRAITH STEALTH COOLER - Tom Clancy’s The Division® 2 Free Game Bundle $164.99, Intel Core i5-8400 $199.99 The 2600 when OC is on average 7% faster. Not for poor peeps just for smart ones.

  65. tenryuta

    tenryutaIl y a 23 heures

    why do you need a tb, its not like your downloading 4k porn, and why do you need anything higher than 1050-1080 gpu

  66. Nathan Norman

    Nathan NormanIl y a 23 heures

    Need more videos with Anthony. Throws things together to prove the numbers.

  67. Luke Peters

    Luke PetersIl y a jour

    IF you went with a lower budget, on an AMD ryzen 5 2400g then you could maybe get rid of the GPU. Your move Intel. Budget @550 - 600 AMD got you cornered.

  68. yepsii

    yepsiiIl y a jour

    that resin table got me wet ngl

  69. just a random guy who likes stuff

    just a random guy who likes stuffIl y a jour

    LINUS CHANGED THE TITLE!

  70. Sergio Madureira

    Sergio MadureiraIl y a jour

    In a couple of months we’ll be able to build a 9900k/gtx1080 level gaming pc for that price going full amd with the new ryzen3000 series and navi

  71. Adam Marcinkowski

    Adam MarcinkowskiIl y a jour

    My spec at the momet is Athlon 2 x4 651k + Radeon HD7770 1gb + 8gb ram I bought that in 2012 , and I dont fell I need upgrade , because I watch you tube , play WOWs & stardew valley , that might change when gta6+cyberpunk 2077+TES6+Fallout5 come out , and I will buy cheap stuff , why ? , I am cheap , and new games look awsome on medium settings...

  72. Sandid Bouha

    Sandid BouhaIl y a jour

    the only takeway from this video is that AMD allows for more future proof / multitasking setups (like streaming) for the same price as equivalent intel setup

  73. darkmtbg2

    darkmtbg2Il y a jour

    Whats the issue with the black bar in the top and bottom. more and more videos do this and it annoys me..

  74. JBL Bass Tester

    JBL Bass TesterIl y a jour

    I have always been Intel fanboy, but then I tried an AMD gaming pc one day and I tried Minecraft and fortnite on it (the store installed it) so I ran Minecraft first, it was laggy 20FPS so reinstalled Minecraft still, reinstalled JAVA still the same results, so I ran fortnite... 17FPS low settings and yes I checked the settings, it was running off the nvidia card, not the built in Radeon graphics, so I thought “NO” I found an gaming pc with exact same specs except the CPU of course same price and it was so much better (they all use the same monitor at the store so can’t be the monitor) so what could cause the AMD system to be laggy in games, windows startup was good but not games..

  75. craftnut

    craftnutIl y a jour

    intel sucks, they should be called "lose intel" why the hell did i comment this intel dosent suck lol.

  76. R0B0boy

    R0B0boyIl y a jour

    Why was the B450 board switched for an a320 board? 4:03 then 5:53

  77. Safet Sabani

    Safet SabaniIl y a jour

    Yeah he changed the name and good he did because I was a little insulted. I know Linus is inlove with Intel and the title did sound insulting. I have both AMD and Intel computers and I will say this - AMD over Intel. You get same thing for less money sounds better to me and idk about other people. Plus CPU - Motherboard compatibility is way waaaay better with AMD computers. But truth be told it all depends on where you live and what you do with your computer. To explain what I mean with statement where you live - I live in Croatia and Intel computers and parts are much much more expensive then AMD's here.

  78. Andrew McArdle

    Andrew McArdleIl y a jour

    Why did the title for this video change?

  79. randyroo2

    randyroo2Il y a jour

    If this video was made when ryzen first hit, AMD would have creamed intel in terms of value for money.

  80. Fredrik Herre

    Fredrik HerreIl y a jour

    Aaaaand then when you go into other applications outside games, AMD does actually cream Intel. Which is kind of the point of the Ryzen, isn't it?

  81. F P

    F PIl y a jour

    AMD for smart people. save your money

  82. RemizZ

    RemizZIl y a jour

    I love that Anthony is so involved in the videos lately. Seems like a really nice dude who knows a shitload about tech :)

  83. bshilling9924

    bshilling9924Il y a jour

    This isn’t Scrapyard wars but seems like Scrapyard Wars.

  84. GaminG SkulL

    GaminG SkulLIl y a jour

    wait a minute who are u ? u said overclock support and now u put i5 8400

  85. Drop Down

    Drop DownIl y a jour

    When we talk BUDGET build, for me 750 is a little too high. Same test would be even more interesting at 500$, although I'm quite sure AMD kills Intel there.

  86. None of your business

    None of your businessIl y a 9 heures

    Honestly, if you look at $500 builds, there will always be someone who says it shouldn't be higher than 400. Ranging from 500 to 800, I'd say we move in a reasonable area.

  87. J T

    J TIl y a jour

    I guess AMD is easier to get to a required budget on. With Intel, you guys had to work a little harder. As this was a gaming piece, it worked for Intel with their superior gaming performance, despite its slower clock speed. If other tasks were required, I would assume AMD would pull ahead (though this video wasn't about any other requirement but gaming). If the budget had dropped another $50, $100 or even $250, then "true" budget gamers might have seen a swing towards AMD.

  88. Peter Nequest

    Peter NequestIl y a jour

    More please :)

  89. h1tzz

    h1tzzIl y a jour

    Even though now 8400 performs pretty similarly to 2600 i would pick 2600 anyway because it has 12 threads, much better in a long run and better performer for thread heavy applications such as blender, handbrake etc... Oh and if you want extra performance you could still upgrade to upcoming ryzen 3000 and ryzen 4000 meanwhile with 8400 you will only have 8700k or 9900k as an option but both cpus shouldnt be paired with budget mobos so its not really viable option ofc if you want to risk your mobo then go ahead.

  90. Azrul Ahloi

    Azrul AhloiIl y a jour

    Ayy r/AyyMD r/Amd

  91. siamsurf

    siamsurfIl y a jour

    Because Intel's sponsoring of Linus Tech Tips makes their CPU's too expensive?

  92. sasuke2483692

    sasuke2483692Il y a jour

    Fuck yes it's for poor people. I got a Ryzen 3 1200 for $40 and overclocked it to 3.7. That thing keeps up with 7th Gen i5s all day.

  93. Aphotic

    AphoticIl y a jour

    if AMD manages to get at least 1 or 2 CPUs from the 3rd generation line up to work on AM4 mobos (not AM4+ or something). Then we'll have a clear winner thanks to backward compatibility

  94. JanoutV Videos

    JanoutV VideosIl y a jour

    My question is... Will Ryzen bottleneck the RTX 2060 ?

  95. Deano

    DeanoIl y a jour

    Depends which one you get

  96. H Batenburg

    H BatenburgIl y a jour

    Haha YES! Go Anthony! Love that you're letting him do more videos!

  97. Frostyx

    FrostyxIl y a jour

    i would like to see another video like this that could have a ryzen 7 series ! a build for 850 Dolars/ Euros in my case!

  98. just riggz

    just riggzIl y a jour

    Pcpartpicker? Iol. Build physical systems you lazy asses

  99. jack liu

    jack liuIl y a jour

    i want watch this topic video

  100. Joel Boyd

    Joel BoydIl y a jour

    Holy, the parts in Canada are so cheap. 750 Canadian dollars is close to 800 Australian dollars. I replicated Anthony's build and its over 1200 Australian dollars. Yikes

  101. Bxssy

    BxssyIl y a jour

    I HAVE A 2600X AND CONSENT TO THE TITLE BEING "IS AMD FOR POOR PEOPLE"

  102. ENI

    ENIIl y a jour

    unboxtherapy like Linus Tech Tips

  103. It'z Rock

    It'z RockIl y a jour

    I managed to get a Ryzen 7 1700x, gtx 760, 16GB 2666mhz pc for $500 during Black Friday

  104. Alex GottmitUns

    Alex GottmitUnsIl y a jour

    AMD is not for poor people, since folks like yours truly bought TWO Vega 64's so they can game in XFIRE paired with a 2700X and 16Gb of 3200Mhz DDR4 in 1440p. Bottom line: a 9900K and a 2700x in 1440p ultra+ and above present exactly the same performance. FACT. It's all about the GPU.

  105. Alex GottmitUns

    Alex GottmitUnsIl y a 9 heures

    Feel bad for you.

  106. None of your business

    None of your businessIl y a 9 heures

    You didn't watch the video at all. Just how much nonsense can one spout and call it "FACTS"? Let alone that nobody cares about vega for gaming.