Most open-world games are just Westerns without cowboys

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  1. Aspiring Marauder

    Aspiring MarauderIl y a 13 jours

    I love how Simone utterly failed to proselytise, and instead convinced everyone that we need MORE of these "problematic" storylines.

  2. Sector O2-10-N II

    Sector O2-10-N IIIl y a 29 jours

    I can sense the hate for white settlers

  3. Mr. Wolf

    Mr. WolfIl y a 29 jours

    Mechanics in games aren't the plot, though? Which basically eliminates fo4. I don't know if you could count the Union Pacific Story, and just because a game follows a plot indirectly that a western writer said westerns followed, doesn't make everything that follows it a western, because then *Everything would be a western*

  4. Jimmy W

    Jimmy WIl y a mois

    This whole video is mental gymnastics at its finest.

  5. Zeeshan Mehmood

    Zeeshan MehmoodIl y a mois

    This is just Simone ASMR

  6. Aidan McGreenie

    Aidan McGreenieIl y a 2 mois

    YOU FORGOT ABOUT MINECRAFT!!!! THE TRUE EMPIRE STORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  7. Gabriel Silveira

    Gabriel SilveiraIl y a 2 mois

    I think that actually BotW doesn't fit any of those

  8. Gabriel Silveira

    Gabriel SilveiraIl y a 2 mois

    I disagree with a lot of points in the video, but who cares about a random viewer...

  9. John O.

    John O.Il y a 3 mois

    *Fallout: New Vegasing intensifies*

  10. Myoukei

    MyoukeiIl y a 5 mois

    I'm surprised that borderlands wasn't brought up during this. it fits so many of these troupes

  11. Mattias Crowe

    Mattias CroweIl y a 6 mois

    Simone I'm not saying you need to read more books but most places are almost giving them away

  12. contactxain

    contactxainIl y a 6 mois

    all open-world games are just westerns without cowboys, but so are most other genre's. Western serials were usually just varients of the hero's journey, and you are almost always a hero on a journey in games.

  13. Tucker Tooley

    Tucker TooleyIl y a 6 mois

    So this means westerns are the perfect story type

  14. William Shreckengost

    William ShreckengostIl y a 6 mois

    See you -space- plains cowboy... Huh. We don't have enough space opera games.

  15. FluidZERO

    FluidZEROIl y a 7 mois

    I would play the shit out of a game about the Union Pacific Railroad building. Hell On Wheels piqued my interest in that genre.

  16. Ricardo

    RicardoIl y a 8 mois

    An open world game of the dollar trilogy would be lit lit lit.

  17. Griffin S

    Griffin SIl y a 8 mois

    westerns are westerns without cowboys with cowboys

  18. Nerd Letter

    Nerd LetterIl y a 9 mois

    I'd actually say there are MANY ranch stories in open-world games, but it really depends on what you would consider an open-world game. I consider sandbox games to be a sort of subgenre of open-world games because you can go anywhere and do anything, and an essential part of sandbox games is finding or building a base and defending it and basically lasting as long as you can while you do your own thing.

  19. railbaron1

    railbaron1Il y a 9 mois

    Sadky a true _Union Pacific_ story (or at least the way I want to play it) doesn't work as an open world game it has to be something like Railroad Tycoon or a Space Opera set just after mankind cracking FTL.

  20. rick johnson

    rick johnsonIl y a 9 mois

    Could have done without all the signaling.

  21. Defaultradio

    DefaultradioIl y a 9 mois

    These aren't particularly western plots or themes

  22. Aidan Bertram

    Aidan BertramIl y a 9 mois

    Borderlands series anyone?

  23. Ry St

    Ry StIl y a 9 mois

    Don't over analyze . your obviously not a gamer.

  24. Ry St

    Ry StIl y a 9 mois

    She obviously hasn't played many video games.

  25. Ry St

    Ry StIl y a 9 mois

    Not true there are tons of Japanese RPG videogames in open words .

  26. Dante I.

    Dante I.Il y a 9 mois

    That 1:35 clip isn't from Once Upon a Time in the West, its from The Wild Bunch. Every time I catch a cold I watch cowboy movies. Ya'll cant fool me.

  27. Ferretser

    FerretserIl y a 9 mois

    Love the voice over girl, she sounds so monotone at some points and she's just like "to make it the absolute shit."

  28. The Knight Sky

    The Knight SkyIl y a 10 mois

    I don't think that all stories that involve a powerful or capable outsider intervening to save local people (like red faction guerrilla, and John Carter, and superman etc.) has the problematic: "white savior " as the central thematic underpinning. Instead, the root meaning is derived from messianic heroism and the very famous and prolific story of Jesus. The many thousands of various savior stories out there don't source their themes from something as specific and small (limited in scope), and vile and unfortunate as implicit prejudice. They are derived from powerful and foundational stories, and it is unfair and itself problematic to try and paint them all with that brush.

  29. Radien

    RadienIl y a 10 mois

    Considering I love the Western setting in video games AND board games, and my favorite sci-fi genre is even the space Western, I feel... a little called out here... These are some great things to keep in mind, though. Deconstruction seems to be the most popular thing to do with Westerns these days, but some deconstructions are more self-aware than others. In particular, the removal of Native Americans (and Native American stand-ins) is especially common. On a side note, I guess Avatar is a Western, too...

  30. zrksyd

    zrksydIl y a 10 mois

    Mother 3 sorta has a ranch story, even if it’s not “open world.”

  31. Shankspeare

    ShankspeareIl y a 10 mois

    Seven Samurai is my favorite Ranch Story.

  32. Harry Hildebrandt

    Harry HildebrandtIl y a 10 mois

    When a guy who's written that many westerns says that there are only seven plots in westerns I start to think me must not have had much fun writing them after the first seven.

  33. Brett Davis

    Brett DavisIl y a 10 mois

    I think the best version of the cavalry story would be the borderlands games

  34. Jacob Stewart

    Jacob StewartIl y a 10 mois

    This is the most pointless circular argument. A lot of the plots and archetypes were around before western themes. Your telling me nobody wrote a fictional story about crime until westerns or there was no stories written about a chosen one either? Some of your points are saying that these generic themes are like the western theme when it should be the other way around. Like the train example. The train should be compared to technological advancements, not technological advancements being compared to train themes. These arguments could and should be flipped. it should be talking about how westerns don't exist because westerns are just regular games with cowboy hats. But that is wrong . Truly what makes a game "western" is the cowboy hats and single action revolvers. What makes a game sci fi is lasers and spaceships. What makes a game a dystopian future is a wasteland plagued by the mistakes of prior humans. See how none of these examples I said anything about the plot being a factor defining the genre of the game.

  35. Jacob Stewart

    Jacob StewartIl y a 10 mois

    but yeah i do see the main point of the video

  36. Dat Boi

    Dat BoiIl y a 10 mois

    USE THE MIC PLEASE

  37. Parker Cole

    Parker ColeIl y a 10 mois

    TIL most video games have plots

  38. Jack Klein

    Jack KleinIl y a 10 mois

    With this logic 80% of all stories r a western plot

  39. Gabriel Silveira

    Gabriel SilveiraIl y a 2 mois

    Agree

  40. Aster Davies

    Aster DaviesIl y a 10 mois

    BOTW = best western confirmed.

  41. Noah Foutty

    Noah FouttyIl y a 10 mois

    Spoilers for Horizon: Zero Dawn

  42. TheBirdThatWhistles

    TheBirdThatWhistlesIl y a 10 mois

    New Vegas is a revenge story that turns into a marshal/empire-ish story that turns into a cavalry story that turns into a ranch story.

  43. MAU FILMS

    MAU FILMSIl y a 10 mois

    wheres the man child, i thought this was his channel im confused

  44. Tristra Gyopsie

    Tristra GyopsieIl y a 10 mois

    this could lay the foundation for what we will see next. look at the evolution of cinema, what came after westerns? when cultural tone changed other things crept in and new genera were born. if the sand box is the video game silver screen, we may see development along similar lines.

  45. Shayne O'Neill

    Shayne O'NeillIl y a 10 mois

    A lot of sci-fi fits this mould too. Star Wars (The original trilogy, and to some extent the latest trilogy, god knows what was happening with the prequels) definately, Cowboy Bebop and Firefly quite explicitely so. Star Trek was envisioned as "wagon train to the stars" and certainly the first series, and elements of the later ones too. Infact arguably its the central inspiration behind a lot of space opera.

  46. Stylesheet RA

    Stylesheet RAIl y a 10 mois

    Star wars is based on feudal japan films

  47. Jay Well

    Jay WellIl y a 10 mois

    I hate Westerns and I hate this and now I'm beginning to hate the concept of open world games and myself shit

  48. Mathew Cepero

    Mathew CeperoIl y a 10 mois

    Shocker. Polygon discovers most stories have similar themes and tropes, but are written in different ways. Did they actually read a book for once?

  49. Jason Soler

    Jason SolerIl y a 10 mois

    Isn't "the Western" the American take on the "heroes journey"?

  50. Stylesheet RA

    Stylesheet RAIl y a 10 mois

    Yes it is

  51. Greg Carter

    Greg CarterIl y a 10 mois

    What's this girl's name talking?

  52. m alv

    m alvIl y a 10 mois

    And westerns are just the classical greeks tragedies and medieval "drama" with cowboys. Because everyone knows that Agamemnon and Heracles were cowboys but with god related stuff instead of guns.

  53. Tegan Vickers

    Tegan VickersIl y a 10 mois

    Mr. Polygon plz tell Simone I love and respect her dearly

  54. OreHammer Fortress

    OreHammer FortressIl y a 10 mois

    yee haw

  55. godlike inferno

    godlike infernoIl y a 10 mois

    she looked very zooted in this video lmaohmasod

  56. Sash

    SashIl y a 10 mois

    Most stories are Western stories (or derived from). Probably why it's my favourite genre, because I often tend to find those stories in everything I watch lol. A+ to that lady.

  57. S

    SIl y a 10 mois

    talking about open world games, doesnt name the Witcher 3 once. dislike.

  58. AwesomeShtuff

    AwesomeShtuffIl y a 10 mois

    We need more Simone on this channel!

  59. Biggest Sipp

    Biggest SippIl y a 10 mois

    Think Fallout NV did a lot if not all of these pretty dang well.

  60. Kazataca

    KazatacaIl y a 10 mois

    Diminishing the amazingly intricate and well thought-out sci-fi tale of Horizon into "goes around killing people but sometimes protecting people" hurts me in the soul.

  61. Nessisma

    NessismaIl y a 10 mois

    We'll always have Breath of the Wild...

  62. King Chaytor

    King ChaytorIl y a 10 mois

    Most drinks are just water with flavor

  63. ScarfFox and Friends

    ScarfFox and FriendsIl y a 10 mois

    Don't all stories in general fall under those story lines o3o

  64. 1998SIMOMEGA

    1998SIMOMEGAIl y a 10 mois

    That's a very bold statement.